GAMEFOWL BREED SPECIFIC FORUM

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[jaypee]

BLOODLINE CHARACTERISTICS as posted by jjina
some years back

Black McRaes = High breaking, fast shuffling. Able to compete pure, and great when crossed on good power fowl.   
Black Travelers = They are really fast and like to take the fight close
Blue Face Hatch = Power, solid one shot power, fast also   
Bob Howard Boston Roundheads = Quick, smart, and good cutters
Butcher = For good balance, accuracy, cutting ability 
Claret = Intelligent, stylish, some very high-strung   
Democrat = Side stepping and really very smart 
Doc Robinson, Brown Red = Rusher, pag bitaw kain agad sa kalaban
Doc Robinson Hatch = Fast & powerful although really hot headed
Giley Humphrey Blue Face = Dead game, power, and multiple strokers
Hamlin Sonotal Asils = Super accurate cutters, Smart tactical fighters. Perfect for grading onto speed fowl to produce superior LK fowl.   
Hatch = Game, Strong, never quits and power 
Joe Goode Greys = Smart, flyers 
Kelso = Smart, Fast and game/ some kelso - stag life they look like rejects, but when they reach 2 and 3 years old a big difference..   
Lacy Roundhead = For speed, cutting, power, early maturing, great for stag derbies, great long knife fowl
Lemon = Can cut accurately, Smart, Fast, Dead game and powerful   
Marion Rose Kelso = All around slasher fowl, kahit 1/4 na lang ang timpla, madiskarte, malayo ang paa sa katawan pag pumalo, real cutting fowls. 
McLean Hatch/ Whitehackle = Gameness, bottom and power
Morgan White Hackle = For gameness, cut, power and breaks well
Mugs = Fast, hardhitters and cuts deep   
Narragansett Hatch 301 = Malakas, mamupog at matibay, man fighter nga lang.   
Nigger Brown Red = Fast, balik ng balik, pag tinamaan ang kalaban agad swerte, pag tumagal at siya ang nasugatan, tulog.   
Old Hulsey grays of the Boss = Very clever, side stepping, accurate cutter. If it can't kill the opponent in the air, it'll kill it on the ground. It just kills fast. 
Payton Democrats = Smart accurate cutters   
Percy Flower Hatch = Dead game, rushers and multiple strokers
Perry Claret = For intelligence, high stationed, single stroker, weaver, and counter puncher.   
Perry Hatches = Power and speed and deadly cutting, can win in the first fly. 
Roundhead = Early maturing, speed, agility, good for stag derbies
Showtime Kelso = Speed, and Cut, very aggressive.   
Spangled Hatch = High breakers with speed and power.   
Sweater = nothing to say every body knows....... 
Typewriter Blue = Umuusok, good cutter   
Wingate Brown Red = Fast dark fowl, smart and they are mostly high stationed
Zambo White ni GD = Tira ng tira, accurate cutter, deadly ang bawat palo   

[jaypee]

Additional...

BLOODLINES

Clarets.
Straight combed white legged red fowl. Usually single stroke cutting fowl. John Madigin originated strain by accident, Red cock mated to Grey hen at a horse track.

Hatch.
Straight or pea combed green legged red fowl. Usually power fowl. Sanford Hatch originated strain from a Kearney Brownred/Kearney WhiteHackle cross bred more to the Brownred side.

Sweaters.
Pea combed yellow legged red fowl. All around athletes. Cecil Davis originated the strain with a Out & Out Kelso/ Yellow legged McLean Hatch cross. ¾ Kelso ¼ Hatch

Kelso's.
Straight & pea combed, depending on strain of "Kelso" fowl. There are many types of Kelso's, all reds. Originator: W.A. Kelso. Kelso bred all types of fowl including Clarets, Hatch, and Roundheads. Most are speed type fowl.

McRae's.
Pea combed black & green legged Blacks & Black reds. Bred by William McRae. These fowl came from several Roundhead families blended together and got their dark color from the "Wactor" Roundheads (aka Nigger RH's) Speed smart fowl.

Butchers.
Straight combed white & yellow legged red, & brassback fowl. Phil Marsh breeder. They are a blend of Groves WhiteHackle, Black red, and speeder Grey bloodlines. Single Stroke cutting power fowl.

Roundheads.
The term "Roundhead" was used to describe pea combed fowl. So, RH's are all pea combed. Yellow & White legged. Most of the Modern RH bloodlines come from the Allen Roundheads. Allen originated his Roundheads from WhiteHackle/Asil grades.

[jaypee]

Regular Grey is said to be a combination of three grey families: the Law Grey, the Sweater Gray and the Plainhead Muff Grey. Regular Greys come green legged, sometimes with yellow, silver duck wings and straight comb. They are medium to low-stationed, and are known for power and gameness. Breeders note that they are as powerful and dead game as the Bluefaces. Because of these, many breeders have made Regular Grey as their foundation line.

Sweater (3/4 Kelos X ¼ Hatch)

Democrat (5/8 Hatch X 3/8 Claret)

Butcher (Whitehackle X Speeder Gray)

Lemon (Hatch X Claret X Butcher)

[Gab]

sir joe... ngayon ko lang nakita ito ah.... malagay nga sa harapan... this would be very helpful for the beginners..


thanks

[Red Baron]

i agree sir gab,,,very good info sir joe,,,natabunan kaya di nababasa.

[nelvin]

Heavy Boned

Green Leg Hatch

    Straight Comb


        * Blue Face
        * Red Richardson
        * Billy Rubble
        * Percy Flowers
        * Sandy Hatch
        * Perry Hatch
        * Heinie Mathesius


    Pea Comb


        * Ted McLean
        * Doc Robinson
        * Jack Walton
        * Leiper
        * Gilmore
        * Riverview
        * Cecil
    Yellow Leg Hatch


        * Oakgrove
        * Ray Hoskin
        * Dink Fair
        * Barnette
        * Sweater
        * Blackwater

    White Hackles

        * Murphy
        * Morgan
        * Lowman
        * Kearney
        * Gleezens
        * Gilkerson
        * North Britons


    Greys


        * Regular Greys
        * Red Richardson
        * Billy Rubble
        * Law Grey
        * Madigin Grey
        * Hulsey Grey
        * Sweater
        * Hoskins
        * Joe Goode
        * Harold Brown (Red Fox)
        * William Green

    Light Boned

        * Claret
        * Griffin
        * Madigin
        * S.B Clay
        * White Hankey Deans

    Kelso

        * Cardinal Club
        * Bob Howard
        * Out & Out
        * JC Bible
        * John O. Fowler
        * Curtis Blackwell
        * John R. Begnaud
        * Brokewing

    Roundhead

        * Boston Roundhead
        * Lacy Roundhead
        * Gary Gilliam
        * Marion Rose
        * Ray Alexander
        * Allen
        * Brunner


    Brownred (Blacks)


        * Wingate (Blevins)
        * Sid Taylor
        * Roy Gray   
        * Mc Rae Blacks
        * Smokey Wallace   
        * Bonanza Blacks
        * Mell Simms
        * Joe Sparks
        * Racey Mugs

[conrad]

mga ka bro....ask ko lang, maron bang naka kaalam ng blood composition nitong mga gold lalong lalo na yong ormoc gold na pinasikat ni sir bernie tacoy? thanks....?

[nelvin]

up up nating bro at baka sakalingmay nakaka alam sa ating mga kasama

nelvin

[conrad]

salamat bro nelvin....sana makita sa iba nating ka bro kasi hindi ako makasagot may nag tanong kasi niyan dito kasamahan ko and hindi ko kasi alam ito, hehehe!!! ang alam ko lang kasi may dugong kelso ito in bisides that wala na kaya calling mga ka bro, hehehe!!!

[topram]

Ormoc gold ni bernie tacoy ay may composition ng gold/kelso po,,mayron po ako hen ormoc gold candidate na po sa breeding dis year...

[conrad]

bro topram,
musta dyan....uu nga pala meron ka nga palang gold dyan? ang tanong ko lang kasi bro kung ano ang blood composition nito, at ano ang root nito pano siya naging gold? same as roundhead diba white hackle/asil yan so yon ang ibig ko sabihin? thanks bro.....naka salang na pala ang inahin mo? gud luck sa breeding bro!!!

[jas16nz]

me nabasa ako dati na sabi ang golds daw ay me linyang white hackles yun daw ang yellow birchens at meron ding hulsey pumpkins na gold din sya na sabi meron ding yellow birchen na dugo but as per bernie tacoy naman sabi nya sa interview na siya mismo daw hindi rin nya alam ang exact composition ng original gold hens na nakuha nya, sabi pa nga nya candidate for culling na daw yun ng tiyuhin nya na hiningi nya?

[Red Baron]

me nabasa ako dati na sabi ang golds daw ay me linyang white hackles yun daw ang yellow birchens at meron ding hulsey pumpkins na gold din sya na sabi meron ding yellow birchen na dugo but as per bernie tacoy naman sabi nya sa interview na siya mismo daw hindi rin nya alam ang exact composition ng original gold hens na nakuha nya, sabi pa nga nya candidate for culling na daw yun ng tiyuhin nya na hiningi nya?

tama ka bro jas,,,pero ang malinaw na sinabi ni BT(bernie tacoy)magandang i-cross sa kelso etong ormoc gold,yan po ang advice nya sa mga kumukuha ng ormoc gold sa kanya.

[jas16nz]

oo nga bro BT parang nag ninick daw sa kelso.kahit anong kelso ba?

[Red Baron]

yan ang di natin alam bro jas,,,pero palagay ko,halos lahat naman ng kelso ay pare-pareho ang laro,,,kaya, baka basta kelso ay ok na cross ng ormoc gold,basta piliin na lang yong winning line na kelso para sigurado.

[jas16nz]

baka nga ano kasi parang na e-enhance ang cutting tsaka speed ng both bloodlines.i came across kasi sa type ng kelso na parang single stroker na counter puncher kung ikukumpara mo sa most kelsos hindi sya kabilisan pero nananalo naman.kung medyo hindi speed type mag mamatter kaya pag yun ang i cross sa golds na medyo mabilis na linyada???

[nelvin]

yan sir CONRAD, marami na po ang nag bigay na inputs, marami po ng salamat mga sir sa inputs, hehhehe, pero ang mas mahalaga po ay ang kilos na manok, at ma ebleblend natin sa ibang style ng laro, kalalabasan maganda ang resulta, hehehe

nelvin

[conrad]

mga ka bro...
musta lahat ulit sa inyo, maraming salamat sa inyong info? at lest kaunti may ma isagot na ako dito, hehehe!!! kahit pala si sir bernie hindi rin pala niya alam kung ano ang root ng gold niya kaya mahirap din pala sa atin ang mag trace niyan? anyway maraming sallamat ulit mga sir....?

[royhatchkelso]

Bro Conrad,

Eto baka hindi mo pa nababasa about kay Sir Bernie Tacoy... Naalala ko kasi na may post na nito dati kaya nag search ako.

Check mo itong link sa ibaba.

http://sabungero.trimp-media.com/forum/index.php/topic,4099.0.html

Royhatchkelso

mga ka bro...
musta lahat ulit sa inyo, maraming salamat sa inyong info? at lest kaunti may ma isagot na ako dito, hehehe!!! kahit pala si sir bernie hindi rin pala niya alam kung ano ang root ng gold niya kaya mahirap din pala sa atin ang mag trace niyan? anyway maraming sallamat ulit mga sir....?

[conrad]

bro roy,
maraming salamat....hehehe, may naka post na pala dito na history ni sir bernie? sigi bro search ko nalang yon, and thanks again!!! musta na lang dyan.

[nelvin]

hehehe, ok lng yan sir conrad, kahit mayron ng topic e d ngayon nakapag sabi si sir roy na mayron na at yan makikita na natin kong ano tlga ang bumubuo ng ormoc gold, hehhee

[conrad]

sir nelvs,
uu nga kay medyo mahiwaga ang gold kasi ni sir bernie, biruin mo in a few years lang tumpak kaagad niya ang  good winnigs sa mga gold niya so napa ka swerte niya?

[royhatchkelso]

Walang anuman bro... daming manok ni sir bernie.. ganda ng mga gold nya doon sa gallery ng web site nya...

bro roy,
maraming salamat....hehehe, may naka post na pala dito na history ni sir bernie? sigi bro search ko nalang yon, and thanks again!!! musta na lang dyan.

[conrad]

uu nga bro roy....ang gaganda ng mga gold talaga niya na search ko rin ang website niya and nakita ko yong mga golden warriors niya?

[nelvin]

sir nelvs,
uu nga kay medyo mahiwaga ang gold kasi ni sir bernie, biruin mo in a few years lang tumpak kaagad niya ang  good winnigs sa mga gold niya so napa ka swerte niya?

hehehe, hindi ka dyan sir CANRAD nag kamali, tlgang ma swerte lng po sir Bernie Tacoy at nakuha nya kaagad ang mag ninick sa kanyang golden hen, hehehe

nelvin

[valteng]

grabe pala sang katerba ang bloodlines.... hays.... nakakalikto kasi pag pungos na sila.... magkakamukha na.... hehehehe sana may pictures para madistinguish ko.... lol thanks alot po sir jaypee and all of the kakmeyts...

[Gab]

sir... ganyang ganyan din ako... gusto ko ituro sa akin ang pagkakaiba ng bawat bloodline according s itsura nila..  kung baga isang tingin pa lang alam mo na agad... pero hindi eh... til now di ko parin saulo lahat... at minsan di ko parin masabi kung anong linyada ng isang manok na nakikita ko.. hehehe

[nelvin]

heheheh, i second to you sir Gab, kahit po ako, nailitu po kong ano tlga ang kakaibang hitsura ng isang line, ang tanda ko lng po, ang lemon, bilogin ang kanyang mata at saktong sakto ang kanyang mata at eye led. hehehe

nelvin

[Gab]

ako naman po is sweater or hatch po kilala ko na.. pati lemon din.. ok na rin sa akin.... kung sweater po siguro di na ako magkakamali. kasi puro sweater din po materials ko ngayon eh...

[nelvin]

hehehe, ang una ko pong na tutunan ay ang klase ng lemon, sunod po ang hatch kasi tlgang iba ang hitsura nila, ang sweater po nag sisismula palang kumilala, hehehe

sir gAb, ano po ba ang kaibahan ng sweater sa ibang linyada?