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« on: March 06, 2010, 08:03:28 AM »


Herbs versus Drugs: Aspect World Poultry
PUBLICATION DATE:  16/09/2009
AUTHOR: M.M. Hossain

Consumers are always thinking about the residual effect of antibiotics in poultry products. It is proved that antibiotics are not always good for poultry health even human health. Drugs can have residual effects. Due to this reason now antibiotics are not allowed (banned from animal feed) for treatment the sick birds in some of countries, like-Belgium. Now a day every poultry scientist is thinking, how poultry can run without using antibiotics and other drugs. So, they are giving more attention to the indigenous medicines. Some herbs, spices and extracts can stimulate feed intake and endogenous secretions or may have antimicrobial, coccidiostatic or anthelmintic activities (Wenk, 2002). Many herbal compounds are already investigated. But we don't know the actual composition of herbs products, sometime it very from one place to another place. So, it should be standardized. Still more research is needed for the treatment and prevention of poultry diseases by using herbs.

Advantages of herbs

1. Herbs can be applicable for organic farms.
2. Antibiotics, coccidiostats and other drugs have residual effects but herbs have no residual effect but still more research is needed.
3. Some plants and plant extracts have bactericidal and bacteriostatic aspects.
4. Some herbs (like-garlic) only kill the pathogenic bacteria; don't kill the helpful bacteria (lactobacillus spp.).
5. Some herbs have antiviral effects (aloe prevents fowl pox).
6. Herbs can be used as antimicrobial, appetizer, immune and digestive agents.
7. Maximum herbs have no toxicity in the body, even due to the higher concentration of herbs and species in animal body (but few are toxic).
8. More than 60 genera of plants have been found to have inhibitory properties toward the growth of E.coli and/or Staphylococcus aureus. (Newman, 1998)
9. Herbs are environment-friendly.
10. It acts as feed supplements.

Some references against antibiotics

Continuous feeding of antibiotics to chickens in the same environment resulted in a decrease or even loss of growth response (Nelson et al., 1963). Supplementation of new antibiotics had no significant effect on growth, mortality or feed conversion ratio in broilers (Proudfoot et.al., 1990). Use of antibiotics in farm animals result in a dramatic increase in the deaths and illness associated with antibiotic resistance, (Newman, 2002). The extensive use of antibiotic growth promoters in poultry industry has resulted in rapid appearance of resistant forms of microorganisms less sensitive to antibiotics (Guo, 2003). The most important potential route by which humans become infected with resistant bacteria is via the food chain, of which meat is the most significant source although other animal products, such as milk and eggs may be involved (Hinton, 1988). Therefore, EU has banned the use of most antibiotic growth promoters in farm animals, including poultry and is strictly controlling their therapeutic use (European Commission/Scientific Steering Committee, 1999).

Magic of garlic

Garlic has more strong antimicrobial activies in the digestive tract than other herbas and spices. It doesn't kill the lactobaccilus bacteria, which is helpful for animal body. A raw garlic clove is damaged; alliin is converted to sulphenate, pyruvate and ammonia by allinase. Sulpahenate leads to allicin (also known as diallyl thiosulphenate), which has been identified as an antimicrobial compound.

Check this link for more: http://en.engormix.com/MA-poultry-indus ... t_1415.htm


Treatment of birds with herbs and species:

Diseases

NCD
Prevention: sodom apple, sisal plant, hot pepper+onion, aloe+pepper
Treatment: neem tree, aloe, aloe+pepper, banana leaves, mbegu rahisi

Fowl typhoid
Aloe, neem tree, sowthistle, cactus+aloe+asparagus, castor oilplant

Fowl pox
Sodom apple (fruit), cactus, onion+pepper+aloe (apply on surface), aloe+cactus+asparagus (apply on spots)

CRD
Hot pepper+onions, aloe, aloe+cactus+asparagus (in the eye), neem tree, aloe+pepper

Coccidiosis
Aloe, neem tree, aloe+pepper, fruit of sodom apple, hot pepper+onion, mbegu rahisi

Endoparasites
Neem tree, aloe+pepper, sodom apple, hot pepper+onoons, lantana

Ectoparasites
Mbegu rahisi (smoking), lantana camara (sweeping+dusting), tobacco (dusting+smoking)

Diarrhoea
Aloe+pepper, sisal

Coryza
Eucalyptus tree, onions



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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 05:04:03 PM »

Hindi ko lang po alam kung nai-post na ito. Post ko na rin. Try niyo pong visit ito mga kakmeyt. http://www.mixph.com/2008/11/herbal-plants-for-poultry-antibiotics.html
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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2010, 03:19:10 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2010, 08:38:14 PM »


Herbs versus Drugs: Aspect World Poultry
PUBLICATION DATE:  16/09/2009
AUTHOR: M.M. Hossain

Consumers are always thinking about the residual effect of antibiotics in poultry products. It is proved that antibiotics are not always good for poultry health even human health. Drugs can have residual effects. Due to this reason now antibiotics are not allowed (banned from animal feed) for treatment the sick birds in some of countries, like-Belgium. Now a day every poultry scientist is thinking, how poultry can run without using antibiotics and other drugs. So, they are giving more attention to the indigenous medicines. Some herbs, spices and extracts can stimulate feed intake and endogenous secretions or may have antimicrobial, coccidiostatic or anthelmintic activities (Wenk, 2002). Many herbal compounds are already investigated. But we don't know the actual composition of herbs products, sometime it very from one place to another place. So, it should be standardized. Still more research is needed for the treatment and prevention of poultry diseases by using herbs.

Advantages of herbs

1. Herbs can be applicable for organic farms.
2. Antibiotics, coccidiostats and other drugs have residual effects but herbs have no residual effect but still more research is needed.
3. Some plants and plant extracts have bactericidal and bacteriostatic aspects.
4. Some herbs (like-garlic) only kill the pathogenic bacteria; don't kill the helpful bacteria (lactobacillus spp.).
5. Some herbs have antiviral effects (aloe prevents fowl pox).
6. Herbs can be used as antimicrobial, appetizer, immune and digestive agents.
7. Maximum herbs have no toxicity in the body, even due to the higher concentration of herbs and species in animal body (but few are toxic).
8. More than 60 genera of plants have been found to have inhibitory properties toward the growth of E.coli and/or Staphylococcus aureus. (Newman, 1998)
9. Herbs are environment-friendly.
10. It acts as feed supplements.

Some references against antibiotics

Continuous feeding of antibiotics to chickens in the same environment resulted in a decrease or even loss of growth response (Nelson et al., 1963). Supplementation of new antibiotics had no significant effect on growth, mortality or feed conversion ratio in broilers (Proudfoot et.al., 1990). Use of antibiotics in farm animals result in a dramatic increase in the deaths and illness associated with antibiotic resistance, (Newman, 2002). The extensive use of antibiotic growth promoters in poultry industry has resulted in rapid appearance of resistant forms of microorganisms less sensitive to antibiotics (Guo, 2003). The most important potential route by which humans become infected with resistant bacteria is via the food chain, of which meat is the most significant source although other animal products, such as milk and eggs may be involved (Hinton, 1988). Therefore, EU has banned the use of most antibiotic growth promoters in farm animals, including poultry and is strictly controlling their therapeutic use (European Commission/Scientific Steering Committee, 1999).

Magic of garlic

Garlic has more strong antimicrobial activies in the digestive tract than other herbas and spices. It doesn't kill the lactobaccilus bacteria, which is helpful for animal body. A raw garlic clove is damaged; alliin is converted to sulphenate, pyruvate and ammonia by allinase. Sulpahenate leads to allicin (also known as diallyl thiosulphenate), which has been identified as an antimicrobial compound.

Check this link for more: http://en.engormix.com/MA-poultry-indus ... t_1415.htm


Treatment of birds with herbs and species:

Diseases

NCD
Prevention: sodom apple, sisal plant, hot pepper+onion, aloe+pepper
Treatment: neem tree, aloe, aloe+pepper, banana leaves, mbegu rahisi

Fowl typhoid
Aloe, neem tree, sowthistle, cactus+aloe+asparagus, castor oilplant

Fowl pox
Sodom apple (fruit), cactus, onion+pepper+aloe (apply on surface), aloe+cactus+asparagus (apply on spots)

CRD
Hot pepper+onions, aloe, aloe+cactus+asparagus (in the eye), neem tree, aloe+pepper

Coccidiosis
Aloe, neem tree, aloe+pepper, fruit of sodom apple, hot pepper+onion, mbegu rahisi

Endoparasites
Neem tree, aloe+pepper, sodom apple, hot pepper+onoons, lantana

Ectoparasites
Mbegu rahisi (smoking), lantana camara (sweeping+dusting), tobacco (dusting+smoking)

Diarrhoea
Aloe+pepper, sisal

Coryza
Eucalyptus tree, onions





up up to post it in the forefron and ang problema ko lng sir dito ay hindi ko kilala ang ibang mga halaman dito, hehhee,
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2010, 09:15:42 PM »

ako sir alam ko lang dyan onions and pepper.....hehehe Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 12:13:03 AM »

hehhe, pero sa susunod nyan sir, marami na yan, hehhee
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2010, 03:00:21 PM »

Good pm. Paano dosage? baka may nakaka alam, paki share naman thanks.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2010, 03:03:10 PM »

welcome bro che,,,nice to read your 1st post here,,,just wait bro,at sigurado sasagutin ng mga expert yang tanong mo,,,, Wink
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2010, 03:24:56 PM »

Good pm. Paano dosage? baka may nakaka alam, paki share naman thanks.

WELCOME ABOARD Bro. Che.. Feel at home ka lang Cheesy

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2010, 03:31:30 PM »

Good pm. Paano dosage? baka may nakaka alam, paki share naman thanks.

there is no clear indication of dosage of the above herbs.. pero kung meron kang concern tungkol sa disease ng iyong palahi... may be some of your brothers here can be of help.. Smiley

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2010, 03:55:32 PM »

Thanks sa Welcome sir Rod.
Just interested sa dosage baka pwede magamit as preventive
measure in lieu of bacterial flushing.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2010, 11:52:39 PM »


Welcome din Bro Che! Gaya ng sabi ni Bro Rod, walang clear indication ang dosage, tantiyahan lang kung ano sa palagay karami ang dapat ibigay.

Sa garlic, isang clove sa malalaking manok at kalahati o maliit na clove sa cockerels.

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 04:31:14 AM »


Welcome din Bro Che! Gaya ng sabi ni Bro Rod, walang clear indication ang dosage, tantiyahan lang kung ano sa palagay karami ang dapat ibigay.
Sa garlic, isang clove sa malalaking manok at kalahati o maliit na clove sa cockerels.

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Bro Che.. agree ako sa tinuran ni Bro Joe.. tungkol sa garlic.. it's probiotic kaya hindi mo na iisipin ang good bacteria to perish dahil it's only the bad bacteria that are affected... anti-bacterial, anti-viral at anti-fungal pa.. at tiyak ko na mawala pa lahat ang parasites sa loob at labas ng katawan ng ating mga alaga..KEEP THEM HEALTHY.. KEEP ON COCKING.. Smiley

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 02:57:36 PM »

welcome to the site Bro CHE, keep on visiting lng bro and dont hesitate to ask, as sir ROD and Jaypee, garlic po, effective tlga, isang butil lng sa isang araw ang kong sa cure, 3 consecutive days..
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2010, 12:18:18 PM »

Good day sa Lahat!
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2010, 12:29:11 PM »

Good day sa Lahat!
Thanks sa mga inputs.

welcome po maam che, enjoy your stay in our site, and you can introduce yourself hito po ang link

http://sabungero.trimp-media.com/forum/index.php/topic,4091.0.html


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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2010, 02:25:32 PM »


Herbs versus Drugs: Aspect World Poultry
PUBLICATION DATE:  16/09/2009
AUTHOR: M.M. Hossain

Consumers are always thinking about the residual effect of antibiotics in poultry products. It is proved that antibiotics are not always good for poultry health even human health. Drugs can have residual effects. Due to this reason now antibiotics are not allowed (banned from animal feed) for treatment the sick birds in some of countries, like-Belgium. Now a day every poultry scientist is thinking, how poultry can run without using antibiotics and other drugs. So, they are giving more attention to the indigenous medicines. Some herbs, spices and extracts can stimulate feed intake and endogenous secretions or may have antimicrobial, coccidiostatic or anthelmintic activities (Wenk, 2002). Many herbal compounds are already investigated. But we don't know the actual composition of herbs products, sometime it very from one place to another place. So, it should be standardized. Still more research is needed for the treatment and prevention of poultry diseases by using herbs.

Advantages of herbs

1. Herbs can be applicable for organic farms.
2. Antibiotics, coccidiostats and other drugs have residual effects but herbs have no residual effect but still more research is needed.
3. Some plants and plant extracts have bactericidal and bacteriostatic aspects.
4. Some herbs (like-garlic) only kill the pathogenic bacteria; don't kill the helpful bacteria (lactobacillus spp.).
5. Some herbs have antiviral effects (aloe prevents fowl pox).
6. Herbs can be used as antimicrobial, appetizer, immune and digestive agents.
7. Maximum herbs have no toxicity in the body, even due to the higher concentration of herbs and species in animal body (but few are toxic).
8. More than 60 genera of plants have been found to have inhibitory properties toward the growth of E.coli and/or Staphylococcus aureus. (Newman, 1998)
9. Herbs are environment-friendly.
10. It acts as feed supplements.

Some references against antibiotics

Continuous feeding of antibiotics to chickens in the same environment resulted in a decrease or even loss of growth response (Nelson et al., 1963). Supplementation of new antibiotics had no significant effect on growth, mortality or feed conversion ratio in broilers (Proudfoot et.al., 1990). Use of antibiotics in farm animals result in a dramatic increase in the deaths and illness associated with antibiotic resistance, (Newman, 2002). The extensive use of antibiotic growth promoters in poultry industry has resulted in rapid appearance of resistant forms of microorganisms less sensitive to antibiotics (Guo, 2003). The most important potential route by which humans become infected with resistant bacteria is via the food chain, of which meat is the most significant source although other animal products, such as milk and eggs may be involved (Hinton, 1988). Therefore, EU has banned the use of most antibiotic growth promoters in farm animals, including poultry and is strictly controlling their therapeutic use (European Commission/Scientific Steering Committee, 1999).

Magic of garlic

Garlic has more strong antimicrobial activies in the digestive tract than other herbas and spices. It doesn't kill the lactobaccilus bacteria, which is helpful for animal body. A raw garlic clove is damaged; alliin is converted to sulphenate, pyruvate and ammonia by allinase. Sulpahenate leads to allicin (also known as diallyl thiosulphenate), which has been identified as an antimicrobial compound.

Check this link for more: http://en.engormix.com/MA-poultry-indus ... t_1415.htm


Treatment of birds with herbs and species:

Diseases

NCD
Prevention: sodom apple, sisal plant, hot pepper+onion, aloe+pepper
Treatment: neem tree, aloe, aloe+pepper, banana leaves, mbegu rahisi

Fowl typhoid
Aloe, neem tree, sowthistle, cactus+aloe+asparagus, castor oilplant

Fowl pox
Sodom apple (fruit), cactus, onion+pepper+aloe (apply on surface), aloe+cactus+asparagus (apply on spots)

CRD
Hot pepper+onions, aloe, aloe+cactus+asparagus (in the eye), neem tree, aloe+pepper

Coccidiosis
Aloe, neem tree, aloe+pepper, fruit of sodom apple, hot pepper+onion, mbegu rahisi

Endoparasites
Neem tree, aloe+pepper, sodom apple, hot pepper+onoons, lantana

Ectoparasites
Mbegu rahisi (smoking), lantana camara (sweeping+dusting), tobacco (dusting+smoking)

Diarrhoea
Aloe+pepper, sisal

Coryza
Eucalyptus tree, onions





great input po sir... ewan ko kung bakit ngayon ko lang nabasa ito.. hehehe...
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2010, 02:40:39 PM »

Aloe Vera :
Aloe Vera (Aloe barbadensis) is one house plant that is hard to miss. It comes from the family of lily; it is spiky, succulent, and perennial. It is native to the eastern and southern part of Africa but it has spread throughout many of the warmer regions of the world like the Philippines. Physically, it is a short-stemmed plant that could grow from 80 to 100 cm tall, spreading by offsets and root sprouts. The leaves are lanceolate, thick and fleshy with thorny edges and with color ranging from deep green to greygreen.
It is ubiquitous in almost every house garden and is either used as accents for landscaping or for its medicinal value. Since it is easy to grow and maintain, it is widely used as natural ground cover or container plant in rock gardens.
For its medicinal value, the juice of its thick, spiny-edged, and fleshy leaves are well reputed for its natural healing effect. The aloe plant’s healing powers are most widely touted for being able to treat skin conditions. It has anti-inflammatory properties, which may explain why it has been known to lessen the pain and swelling associated with itches and burns. Many of the medicinal uses of aloe vera are common knowledge. What is less known, however, is its uses in poultry.
Aloe as Growth Enhancer in Chickens
Broiler production alone already comprises 85% of the poultry meat requirement of the Filipinos. Although the demand is high, the industry could hardly make up with the requirement due to high prices of commercially and imported feeds. Thus, the poultry industry particularly on the part of the raisers, continuously find means to lessen their cost of production. One way is to look for alternative source of feed supplement that is not only cheap and can boost the growth of chickens but most important, is organic and readily available.
In the recent study of Mr. Feliciano R. Bejar of the Samar State College of Agriculture and Forestry and Ms. Remedios P. Colapo of the University of Eastern Philippines, Northern Samar, this dilemma in the broiler industry was particularly addressed using extracts from aloe vera. Unknown to many, this plant is not only valued for its medicinal components but it also plays an important role in promoting growth in chickens.
Mr. Bejar conducted a 42-day experiment to study the growth performance of 90 broilers whose drinking water was mixed with aloe extract. The chickens subjected to this study were randomly distributed into five aloe extracts treatments: 5 ml, 10 ml, 15 ml, 20 ml per gallon of drinking water, and plain water as control. The method followed a complete randomized design (CRD), which was replicated three times.
In order to determine if the aloe extract indeed created an effect on the growth of the chickens, the researchers used five parameters to measure growth performance of broilers: 1) body weight; 2) feed consumption; 3) feed conversion ration; 4) water consumption; and 5) return of investment. They also determined sensory evaluation of the broilers given the drinking water supplemented with the aloe vera extract. A sensory evaluation was conducted to evaluate the meat for its color, desirability, intensity, texture, tenderness, juiciness, and general acceptability.
Aloe vera leaves were first subjected to toxicity test at the Philippine Rootcrops Laboratory, Leyte before juice was extracted. Results showed no effect to the chicken fed. Researchers found that all animals subjected to this particular study became more active after receiving the aloe extracts. Result of the 42-day experiment showed that the final weight and gain in weight of the broilers were significantly affected by the aloe vera extract supplementation. Broilers given wthe aloe extracts as drink supplement (5-20 ml) significantly improved their growth rates compared to those broilers given plain water, which showed the lowest final weight and gain in weight.
In terms of feed consumption, broilers given the 15 ml and 20 ml of aloe extracts in their drinks rated the highest (ave. of 3387.78 g and 3148.89 g, respectively) while those given the plain water rated the least (2737.22 g). This result, according to the researchers implied that the final weight and gain in weight were strongly influenced by the feed intake of the chicken.
Meanwhile, no significant results were found in the feed conversation ratio (FCR) of broilers although numerically, those chicken given the aloe extracts showed slightly better FCR than those given plain water. Likewise, aloe vera supplementation did not significantly affect the carcass and sensory characteristics of the broiler meat, retaining the acceptability and saleability of the product.
For the dressing percentage (weight of the carcass and organs after the treatment was applied), again, those given the aloe extract supplementation command the highest dressing percentage while the unsupplemented ranked the least. This means that the heavier the final weight, the better is the dressing percentage in chickens.
For the economic competency, analysis showed that chicken whose drink was supplemented with aloe extracts showed the best return of investment (ROI) among the treatments with 30% ROI compared to the 7.5% of the unsupplemented.
What is in Aloe Vera?
Aloe vera is not only a natural healer, it’s also a growth enhancer in poultry. Hearing that, one might think, it’s too good to be true. Essentially, the leaves of aloe vera are often for external uses only, they are not meant to be taken in. But with the study of Bejar and Colapo, it’s now clear that it’s safe for animal intake. Thus, it is important to know what’s in the aloe vera that makes it both a natural healer and a growth promoter in chickens.
Physically, the leaf of an aloe vera is composed of three layers. The first layer contains a clear gel, which is contained within the cells of the generous inner portion. Then there’s the anthraquinones contained in the bitter yellow sap of the middle leaf layer and the fibrous outer part of the leaf that serves a protective function.
The content of the aloe vera leaf is just 0.5 – 1.5% solid, with an average pH value of 4.55. This solid material contains over 75 different nutrients including vitamins and minerals.
Aloe vera is rich in vitamins and minerals. Specific vitamins include: Vitamin A (Beta-Carotene), Vitamin B1 (Thiamine), Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin), Vitamin B3 (Niacin), Vitamin B5, Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine), Vitamin B12, Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Choline, and Folic Acid. The vitamins A, C, and E are responsible for the aloe’s antioxidant activity while vitamin B and choline are involved in amino acid metabolism and vitamin B12 is required for the production and development of blood cells.
Among the important minerals found in aloe vera are: calcium, chromium, copper, iron, magnesium, manganese, potassium, phosphorous, sodium, and zinc. These minerals are essential for good health and are known to work in synergistic combinations with each other, with vitamins and other trace elements.
Aside from vitamins and minerals, aloe vera is rich with enzymes (help the breakdown of food sugars and fats), hormones (aid in healing and antiinflammatory activities), sugars (i.e. glucose and fructose that provide antiinflammatory activity), anthraquinones or phenolic compounds (aid absorption from gastro-intestinal tract and have antimicrobial and pain killing effects), lignin (increases the blood circulation), saponins (provide cleansing and antiseptic activity), sterols (antiseptic and analgesic), amino acids (basic building blocks of proteins in the production of muscle tissue), and salicylic acid (works as a pain killer).
Other Recent Important Uses of Aloe Vera
With the build-up nutrients and capability of aloe vera both as natural healer for humans and growth promoter in poultry, it’s not surprising that the scientific community finds interesting and effective uses of this plant wonder.
In Spain for instance, researchers at the University of Miguel Hernandez in Alicante have developed a gel from aloe vera that could prolong the conservation of fresh produce, such as fresh fruit and legumes. This gel is tasteless, colorless and odorless, and is safe and environmentally friendly and can be an alternative to synthetic preservatives such as sulfur dioxide.
Some preliminary studies have also suggested that it may be a powerful antiviral agent, and potent immune system enhancer. It is being tested as a possible treatment for certain types of cancer and conditions as serious as diabetes. Although promising studies like this are still waiting validation, still, it’s good to know that a house plant as ubiquitous like the aloe vera could create such potent effects.
This article was based on the study, “Growth Performance and Sensory Evaluation of Broilers Supplemented with Aloe Vera (Aloe barbadensis) Extract in Drinking Water” by Feliciano R. Bejar of the Samar State College of Agriculture and Forestry, San Jorge, Samar and Ms. Remedies P. Colapo of the University of Eastern Philippines, Catarman, Northern Samar.
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2010, 09:46:22 PM »

nice input maam che...
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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2010, 05:50:28 AM »


Nice input and thanks kapatid na Che, hoping for more. Pakilala ka naman sa "Introduce Yourself".

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« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2010, 01:00:50 PM »

Good day sa Lahat !
Thanks sa acknowdgement sirs.
Sir Nelvin , male ako, kaya bro or pare na lang.
Ok sir jaypee.
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« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 09:34:32 PM »

Good day sa Lahat !
Thanks sa acknowdgement sirs.
Sir Nelvin , male ako, kaya bro or pare na lang.
Ok sir jaypee.


hehehehe, sorry po sir, sa ulit po welcome po sa site and hope you'l enjoy staying here..

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