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« on: February 17, 2006, 10:29:40 AM »

 Grin  Hello!guys I knew that Sweaters is very popular in the Philippines, I breed a few but did'nt like the way they fight,they go to close to the opponent and in return won crippled or killed after the fight.
     I want to ask anyone who breeds other strain that manages to win against the sweaters more often, and the have the right to call their roosters/strain D'Sweater killers. Grin
      Actually I am trying to have battlecrosses/blends that can compete head to head with the Sweatershe,he,he! Grin
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2006, 09:19:19 PM »

Sweaters are good cutters and high flyers Smiley, i have a Sweater Bodlat cross that won last February 19 in a hackfight, which is a very crucial fight. My roosters opponent is a jhonny jumper lemon and all I can say is that sweaters is a perfect bloodline to match against any other bloodline.......But I respect your idea of the sweater line.....peace bro...
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2006, 10:47:37 PM »

Sweaters frankly is not that hard to kill, mostly the look of it kills coz it is more remembered in the fight,sobrang ganda kumbaga, when compared to an ugly cock who demolishes its opponent superbly often are forgoten.
Many even failed in breeding sweaters, thinking its the ultimate cock, but it aint.
i have tried roundhead crosses and lemon crosses, both crosses pummels the sweater line easily, sweater even sulk and gives up during fight.
it's the Breeding skill of an individual that marks the excellence of ones fowl.i if you have the right standards in Selection and almost perfect breeding system, we ourselves would notice why our fowl perform better than the other.Cheers and Happy Cocking.
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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2006, 03:49:55 PM »

Yup I agree with bro Emerald, breeding is just trial and error method  but not always and were based on highest probability of winnings from shell to pit loaded with a lots of common sense thru experience
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2006, 11:00:45 PM »

i can only hope
that my kelso-japs-brownred
will be matched to a sweater
in coming CF derby

so i will know
if he can rock and roll
with the best of sweater there is
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 11:32:13 PM »

sir,

     ano ho yung japs? Huh
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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2006, 08:08:01 PM »

it`s an oriental fowl
known for cutting accuracy
like--------
sam gowdy japs
or bobby boles japs
or martin ytuarte japs
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006, 09:49:11 AM »

over the weekend i fought against a sweater rooster from a big farm here in luzon known for their sweaters... their bet was P88k... they surely were pretty confident that their rooster will kick the ass of my hatch looking rooster... but lo and behold when they were released the sweater rooster flew in the air twice with feet blazing trying to hit my rooster... but my boy just side-stepped... on the third time that the opponent went in my rooster flew vertically and fatally hit him, shuffling all the way to the ground... the fight was over in less than 15 seconds...
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006, 12:05:24 PM »

sir ncyabut wow great fight ha..keep on winning...
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2006, 07:11:00 PM »

I admire the beauty of the sweater....but if myself got the change to own a lemon any cross ....fight ako sa sweater.......last night we got some fight.....and my lemon+rubles is pitted contra a good looking hatch..medyo bulaw...and blue leg......my opponent got a bill hold to my rooster long tail (pa mayor)....but my opponent can not connect to my rooster...every time that the opponent got near, my lemon will give a multiple shuffle.....the opponent is also very strong but got no change in winning ......kasi di namamahinga ang lemon sa kapapalo......I win this particular game...in a very good fashion on my opinion...my lemon is our brood cock......here 3x na siya.....at ngayon ay 5 year old na siya.......mas tumatanda lalung gumagaling.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2006, 08:57:08 PM »

Nagpapauna na po... Opinyong ko lang po ito and im just sharing my thoughts..


WHo says sweaters are invincible?? wala naman po...  its just its the most popular breed today dahil....

sa looks ba??? (HINDI NAMAN BEAUTY CONTEST TO) sa kulay??? hindi po...

DAHIL SA PERFORMANCE....  Its the complete fighting machine.. it can kill you in the air and in the ground.. it can fly with the best roundheads there is, it can outthink the best orientals out there, it can also outshuffle the best hatch there is. IT IS JUST IMPERATIVE TO CHOOSE THE BEST ONES.... YAN ANG SIKRETO KAHIT SA ANONG MANOK


Try watching the WSC, Candelaria or any other big time events out there.... BAKIT KAYA PURO SWEATER ANG GAMIT NG MGA KILALANG COCKERS / BREEDERS / SELECTORS KUNG MAS MAGAGALING ANG LEMONS, HATCHES OR ANY BREED FOR THAT MATTER...

I wonder why.... I rest my case...


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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2006, 02:27:31 AM »

and dont forget also SABONG is Tao and Manok....give the worse chiken to the good sabungero and he will WIN with it sa pag tulong sa pag pares ng maganda, alaga na mganda at sa pag bitaw nang tama...and what is needed is some once of good luck....at mananalo....and manok sa kahit sinong kalaban. But give the good sweater to dull handler, sigurado ko matatalo ito

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2006, 05:21:27 AM »

oliver,
       tama ka dyan pero asko nakita ko na agad ang tatalo sa sweaters yan
      PURPLE HIPPO mo walang tigil ang hataw kahit may supola hehehe Grin
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2006, 06:15:55 PM »

kpag hindi ka nagtipid sa pamamaraan ng pagpapalaki mo sa iyong panabong na manok, ibig sabihin ibinigay mo ang tamang alaga simula sa magandang pagkain hanggang sa bitamina at regular na pagpupurga magiging maganda ang pundasyon ng iyong panabong. tama! ang sweater ay isa sa magagaling na bloodline ngaun pero kailangan mo din sila bigyan ng magandang pundasyon mula sisiw hanggang sa laban.
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 11:20:09 AM »

just like in fashion... sweaters are still the hottest item in the market... that's why all breeders churn out sweaters and sweater look-alikes... they SELL!!!  for how long this thing will go on, nobody knows...   
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 01:29:12 PM »

Until the Rat will eat the sweater in our closet...bwehehe Grin
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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2006, 06:25:48 PM »

Sa akin naman po! minsan kahit anong galing ng manok mo talo pa rin yan sa swerte! sabi ko nga! pag nag dedehado na ang regla! "TALO NA ANG MAGALING SA SWERTE" ewan ko lang. opinyon ko lang to.
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2006, 07:42:39 PM »

rock,

         In my own breeding program, I used 1/4 roundhead 1/4 bruce barnett and 1/2 ruble hatch. Ill test them in the coming years against sweaters. Tingnan ko lang kung uubra ang galing ng pure sweaters sa breeding ko. 4 months old n baby stags n sila ngaun. May ring savvy,high flyers and pumuputok ang palo.

         
         Keep searching with solid bloodlines and make an experimental cross of your own, malay mo, you can create your own sweater killers....

         Goodluck!!!!
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2006, 10:51:05 PM »

sa akin po ang pinaka d best ay sweater.maganda n itsura magaling pa.me angat na,cutting at speed na me finishing pa.masisiyahan k tlaga.
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2006, 11:02:38 PM »

ang alam ko pong pangtapat s sweater ay lacy roundhead flyer w/ great cuttingat me finishing din.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2006, 08:29:25 PM »

i like sweaters. but i love asils or oriental grades most. we are now experimenting to cross sweater to a 1/2 grade asil broodcock. hope ok ang lalabas.
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« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2006, 12:24:59 AM »

londicap lines  Cheesy
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2007, 11:35:18 PM »

bantay lemon
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« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2007, 10:44:30 PM »

Maybe this will be the next generation..............."the sweater killer huh..........."

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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2007, 10:32:33 AM »

Sweaters are about the best there is in the air and on the ground. I raise Blackwater and Machine Gun Sweaters and both these strains of Sweaters  resemble each other pretty perfectly. My Sweaters are very fast actions movers that will bring it to you very aggresively wih precesion timing and body cutting excellence. They can strike with acrobatic agility from any angle especially in the air upside down. Duke Hulsey's are also great fighters like the Sweaters fight hard and fast with alot of the same skills with exception on occasions the Sweaters will fly more and higher making them more dangerous not only on the ground but more so in the air. Hulsey lemons are RingGenerals and onmost occasions command the fight on the ground. If an opponent was to stay in the air this would be the place to be to have a chance at bringing the Hulsey up an under making the Hulsey vulnerable. "SWEATER KILLERS" in my opinion would have to have all the great sklls plus BE  ABE TO FLY EVEN HIGHER! That is te KEY! My Golden Greys a blend of Bates Greys and EH Hulsey Pumkins orriginated from Henry Wothams of old. Bates Grey, strong basically a hatch grey combo grey smart side step and air, hatch faston the ground. EH Hulsey Pumkins They add the plus of HiGH FLYING hoovering and being able to reverse, flying in backwards and the coming back foward like a helicopter. This is a SWEATERs only weakness is a bird who will stay Higher in the AIR. My Sweater Killers are GOLDEN GREYS!
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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2008, 03:17:59 AM »

A good family of Rh and Kelso should get the job Done.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2008, 08:44:43 AM »

In my experience, the best sweater killers are the battle crosses of sweaters itself. It can parry the blows of sweaters. It can outwit sweaters in the ground and finish them in a fashion way. Try the combination ruble hatch - sweater, roundhead sweater,lemon sweater and kelso sweater and see the difference. Most of my fights in hackfights turn far more superior to my opponents sweaters.

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« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2009, 07:44:23 AM »

Yup I agree with bro Emerald, breeding is just trial and error method  but not always and were based on highest probability of winnings from shell to pit loaded with a lots of common sense thru experience
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2009, 11:49:23 PM »

Makiraan po para malaman ang mga lines na dapat kong ilagan. Puro kasi ang sa akin. Nais kong mag-cross sana sa flyer o sa asil sa susunod kung makakuha ng material. Grin

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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 12:14:49 PM »

Tama ka pare..aabangan namin yang sarili mong linyada. Sa tingin ko yang Dom mo ay susi sa iyong pagsikat...hehehe

Good luck pare.

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ang bloodline na  isa sa maaring tatalo sa sweater ay ang sarili kung tuklas na timpla malalaman din ninyo balang araw.
pinaghuhusayan ko ang pagluluto,upang mangibabaw naman sa susunod na dekada.sana alisin na natin ang pagiging colonial mentality.kung ang materyal natin ay galing sa banyagang breeder,kapag tayo na ang nagbreed pangalan na natin  sana ang ikabit natin sa bloodline na na produce natin,tama ba mga kasabong?. pinasisikat lang natin ang mga breeder sa amerika pag di tayo natoto.nais natin sariling trademark,sariling luto at malayo  na,na   luto pa ng ibang breeder ang ginawa mo. tama ba mga kabayan.eh?ano kung tawagin natin
EX.Lakay sweater,Lakay hatch,Lakay Roundhead,Lakay DOM etc.mga kasabong kailan ba tayo gigising na huwag nang gamitin ang sikat na pangalan ng american breeder, ni di tayo sigurado sa kinunan nating local breeder kung totoo na galing kay juan dela cruz ang anak ng nabili natin na malayo naman sa katotohanan.ang sweater ng american breeder maayos lalo na yong authentic.pero ng ibreed na nito ng nakabili nagkaloko-loko na. nag-iba na ang laro ng mga anak nito.dahil sa crosses.o pag experiment.minsan din naman ok, pero kadalasan sumasablay sila sa fighting char. kaya naroon ang classification and selection. ang breeding ay trial and error walang perpekto.kahit pa tayo ay nag inbreed or nag linebreed.sweater is good pero kayang kayang patayin ng gold at dom 85% dipende sa bloodline na nakakarga sa dalawa.
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